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Welcome to We are the Hansens. Today, we are diving
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into a topic that influences nearly every aspect of our lives. Money,
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more specifically, the role of family in shaping our attitudes
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towards money, from the way we save and spend, how
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we handle financial stress. Our family plays a huge role
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in shaping our beliefs about money, whether it's lessons passed
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down from our parents, experiences from childhood, or the financial
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habits we're now instilling in our own kids. Money is
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more than just dollars and cents. It's about values, priorities,
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and even emotions. As a big family, who've had to
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be intentional about how we approach money, teaching our kids
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financial responsibility while balancing wants, needs, and unexpected spenses. In
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this episode, we will share our upbringing influenced our own
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financial mindset, the money lessons we want our kids to learn,
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and how we navigate finances as a family. So grab
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a cup of coffee and join us as we talk
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about money, family and the lessons that last a lifetime.
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Let's get started.
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Well, let's get started. I'm the husband. She's letting me
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come in on this one today. How are you good? Well?
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I say, we do it my way and we change
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things up a little bit. Oh yeah, we're talking about
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kids and money.
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What are you laughing at I'm laughing at you.
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Boy, it's got to be fun. It's we're talking about money.
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Money are crazy making money. We're talking about the money.
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We're talking about saving money.
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Well, you don't have a problem sending it.
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No, you're the one that doesn't have a problem. So
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you can literally go ask our children, and that's how
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Dad's the saver.
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No, not even clothes.
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No, today we got to do a little bit something
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more fun, if you know what I'm saying. Once in
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a while, and money is one of those things that
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you can teach your kids. You can have a bunch
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of fun doing it, but there's always the hard lessons
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you got to learn, Like, uh, how about this. Do
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you think that just because your kid does chores that
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they should get money for every kind of choice they do.
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No, doesn't teach them anything.
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Well exactly, but then there's some things that they do
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make money on. Yes, Okay, so it's a delicate balance.
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Out of all of our kids, out of all thirteen,
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who do you think is the best with money?
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Probably Tristan Yeah, Tristan is very good.
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Adam is also very good. Colin is also very good.
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As a matter of fact, we don't have any kids
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that are just bad with money, except for the.
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Little ones are pretty bad with money.
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Yeah, maybe are very very little ones. But you know,
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where's the responsibility in money under eight years old?
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Yeah?
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You know, I work for that. I want that doll.
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I'm gonna get it bad, right, that's the truth. Well
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let's get this going. Okay, that's enough of that, but hey,
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sometimes you gotta have a little bit of fun, right, Yeah,
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you know, I think when it comes to kids, number
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one thing, number one thing is you got to teach
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them money is not the love of money. Like you,
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you don't want money to have money because money is
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completely worthless unless you use it as a tool.
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Right, Yeah, you.
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Don't give them an example of having money but nothing
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to spend it on.
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I would have to say, well, there's always stuff to
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spend it on. It's just once first needs.
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And that is my wife showing her true colors about
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saving money. You see, if you ask me, there's not
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always something to spend it on.
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Wait, I'd rather save money and go on a vacation
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with the family than just go out and buy stuff
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that I don't need.
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Well, I agree with that, but you know, we're talking
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about kids. I taught my kids a long time ago
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because I used to be the guy that would go
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out and I wanted tools. So I wouldn't save up
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to get the tools that I wanted I'd get. I'd
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save up enough to get a tool that was kind
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of like I wanted, but I could get it quicker,
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like instant gratification.
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Yeah, Like a lot of times he would just get
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something that he wanted.
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Not exactly what I wanted, Like I would settle for
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a Harbord freight tool versus in Milwaukee.
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Yeah, but they're still as good, I would say, And.
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See, I would say they're not. But you know, that's
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the good thing about being being right and the good
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thing about you being wrong.
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Now, I like, I like to buy where we might
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save a little money, and he likes to buy the
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expensive stuff.
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I wouldn't say expensive, I would say value. There's a
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value proposition there. And I try to teach the boys this.
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Excuse me, when you're buying certain items, it's like you
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should just buy the good one, buy it once and
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be done with it instead of buying things multiple times,
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you know, And I've showed the shown the kids that
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multiple times when it comes to tools or things like that.
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And then like the girls like, how many dolls if
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you're not careful, how many dolls can your child end
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up with? After three years? Wow? We have a lot, exactly, So,
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but how many dolls do they actually play with?
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Probably five or six?
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Right, that's it, that they have five or six and
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the rest just sit in the toy box and look
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unhappy because they're not being played with.
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That's true.
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That's true. So you got to teach your kids that
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money is a tool, and you really should before wasting money.
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You really should know what you want and then it's
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very simple, work really hard and just go get it.
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Yes, we've always from the time our kids were able
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to know, you know, how money, like how to save
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and how to spend, they've known how to do that,
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and we've always instilled like you got to save. If
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you want this, or if you need something for your vehicle,
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you better have the money to spend it on.
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Right. And I think it comes from, you know, from
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our parents. I think that's a lot of it is
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learn behavior. I think you can nickel dime yourself. Like
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if you stop at the gas station. Every time you
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go in the gas station, you're buying this, or you're
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buying that, or you know, like two three sodas, you
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can literally go through, you know, three four hundred bucks
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a month just stopping at the gas station and buy
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an extra crap every month.
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I would have to agree. I mean, growing up my family,
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my mom and dad worked twenty four to seven and
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we were always broke. So I've learned that save as
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much as you can because you never know when something's
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gonna happen and you're gonna need that money.
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Right, So I think there's some foundational principles like know
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what you want, don't buy garbage, and never ever go
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spend money on instant gratification, you know, like instead of
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saving today, I'm gonna buy that candy bar because I
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want that instant gratification today.
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Yeah, our kids are very good about not spending like that, right, you.
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Know, all the kids I taught that you needed to
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have a well it's not what I called it, but
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an emergency fund.
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Yeah, it's the oh shit fund.
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Yes, the oh shit fund. That's what I always told
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the kids, especially as they get older in their teenage years,
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you're going to have problems. At some point, you're going to.
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Have problems, Yes, And it's almost like our kids have
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seen what we struggled with, so they've learned that. You know,
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mom and dad struggled and they saved and they got
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what they needed. And I see them doing the same thing.
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Yeah, so do I. I mean, it's just it's one
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of those things like sometimes you're going to go through
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Murphy's Law. You can be the hardest worker, you can
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do all the right things, but at some point something
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is going to go wrong. So you have to have
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a fund. You have to save for that fund. I've
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truly always believed in ten percent of everything you earn,
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you just put away another ten percent of that goes
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into the oh shit fund, and you never touched the
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first ten percent. You act like it's not even there.
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So you have a saving so as you get older,
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you're not depending on anybody, including Social Security, to have
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a retirement that just gets put away invested. It can
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come in handy later if you want to reinvest it
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into like a business you have or something like that.
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But I think you've got to set the base, like Okay,
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for every dollar you make, ten cents of it goes here,
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ten cents of it goes there. The other eighty cents
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you do with what you want.
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Yeah, it's like I've done a podcast on this in
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the past, but every time our family takes a trip,
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something always happens. A car breaks down, we get a
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broken windshield, we hit something. It always happens. And you
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always have that money if you need it.
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Right and then you know, I think something that I've
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always told my kids is if you borrow money, if
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you borrow money to somebody, especially if it's family.
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What's my rule, Maya, don't ever expect it back.
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It is in gift. Yeah, pretend it's a gift. If
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they happen to give it back to you, well hallelujah.
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But if they don't, you gave it as a gift
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because you were in the financial position to give it.
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And I try to tell my kids, you know, it's
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good to have empathy, but it's bad to put yourself
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in a bad position. So if you can help other
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people and you want to help other people, help them,
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but do not expect anything back, because that is a
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fast way to ruin relationships, especially with money, because money
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is a weird thing. Money changes people. If they have
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very little money, it changes people. If they have a
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whole bunch of money, it changes people. It's usually the
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middle of the road people that stay the same.
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Yes, And I would consider ourselves middle of the road.
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Yeah, absolutely, And that's kind of where I want to stay.
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I mean, we've been way up there, and we've been
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way way down there, and right in the middle it
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kind of seems like the happy spot.
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I don't want all these like fancy cars and all that.
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I'd rather have an older car and have it bought
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out right and not have that payment than to go
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out and buy an eighty thousand dollars vehicle that it's
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not going to be worth eighty thousand dollars by the
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time you're driving it for a couple of years.
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Well, I've got a saying that I live by. It's
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in a friend of mine that passed away. I used
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to say it all the time. It was one of
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his tenants of life, and it was just because you
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can doesn't mean you should. And you know that really
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really shines through when it comes to money. Just because
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you can go buy a new car, you make enough
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money and you can skim by. It really doesn't mean
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that you should. And I try to teach our children that,
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all of them, they're all pretty good with that. But
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sometimes that's one of those life lessons. For example, my
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daughter wanted a Nissan, really nice, newer Nissan, and I
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was like, honey, that is an expensive payment. Well it's
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only four hundred and thirty dollars dad, you remember that, yep.
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And I was like, honey, you make enough to do it. Financially,
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you can do it. But there's a there's a difference
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from being able to can do it to you start
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not wanting to do it. And where's she at today.
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Well, she's in a position where she's made three payments ahead. Well,
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when she switched jobs and started college again, she fell
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down to one payment ahead, and she panics at that point,
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so she starts, well, it's not.
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Just that, it's the new wears off. So you get
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this buyer's remorse, like, man, I got to pay four
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hundred and thirty dollars a month again, and you know
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we've we've done the thing where you split up the payments.
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So more goes on principle, and she's paid ahead, but
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now she's really learned the value lesson and you know,
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next time, I'm probably going to get a car that
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fits my needs more than this thing that I just
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wanted to have that. Don't get me wrong. She can
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make the payments. She's still making the payment, she's still
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doing all of that. But it's a it's a mind
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thing about what you want in the moment versus what
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you want you know later on. And here we are,
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you know what, two and a half years. Two and
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a half years. She's got the same payment, but the
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wants that she has now we're different than the wants
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that she had two and a half years ago. So
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it's just you know, as you go build it up
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and the thing is four hundred and thirty dollars, it